Comments on: The Balkanization of BitTorrent http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/ NewTeeVee Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:57:43 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Mark Cuban: Low-Budget Doom and SEO Gloom for Web Video « NewTeeVee http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-237285 Mark Cuban: Low-Budget Doom and SEO Gloom for Web Video « NewTeeVee Mon, 05 May 2008 18:20:11 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-237285 <p>[...] Bernstein Research report that’s not publicly available, the cranky Cuban (who’s often blogged about his dissatisfaction with web video) quotes Bernstein analyst Craig Moffett, Five years into [...]</p> [...] Bernstein Research report that’s not publicly available, the cranky Cuban (who’s often blogged about his dissatisfaction with web video) quotes Bernstein analyst Craig Moffett, Five years into [...]

]]> By: Techs Message - We love technology » Response To Om Malik’s List of Reasons Why The Legal BitTorrent DL’s Won’t Work http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1074 Techs Message - We love technology » Response To Om Malik’s List of Reasons Why The Legal BitTorrent DL’s Won’t Work Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:59:17 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1074 <p>[...] official client has lost out to alternative clients including Azureus and [...]</p> [...] official client has lost out to alternative clients including Azureus and [...]

]]> By: GigaOM » 5 reasons BitTorrent Store won’t sell http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1073 GigaOM » 5 reasons BitTorrent Store won’t sell Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:02:16 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1073 <p>[...] official client has lost out to alternative clients including Azureus and [...]</p> [...] official client has lost out to alternative clients including Azureus and [...]

]]> By: » O P2P está morto. Longa vida ao P2P! http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1072 » O P2P está morto. Longa vida ao P2P! Sun, 04 Feb 2007 07:17:02 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1072 <p>[…] Outra dificuldade do P2P, segundo Cuban, consiste na existência de um cada vez maior número de programas-cliente incompatíveis entre si, sobretudo no campo do BT: apesar de partilharem o mesmo protocolo e código-fonte aberto, as aplicações instalam-se no computador do utilizador, funcionando como se tivessem acesso exclusivo e detivessem o controlo do PC. Para além de confusão a que a existência de vários clientes na mesma máquina induz, esta “balkanização do BitTorrent” como lhe chama Janko Roettgers, poderá levar a alterações indesejadas das configurações dos tipos de ficheiros, podendo os utilizadores incomodados acabar por removerem todas as aplicações. Este seria o cenário do regresso da “guerra dos leitores de media” do século passado entre Real Networks e Microsoft… Por outro lado, os trackers de torrents poderão banir os clientes incompatíveis e que aldrabam o seu valor de rácio.  Quanto a este ponto, embora o Smaran afirme que o processo de associação de ficheiros pela aplicação instalada mais recente seja algo comum na esmagadora maioria do software de todos os sistemas operativos, a questão da profusão de clientes incompatíveis fica, contudo, por resolver. […]</p> […] Outra dificuldade do P2P, segundo Cuban, consiste na existência de um cada vez maior número de programas-cliente incompatíveis entre si, sobretudo no campo do BT: apesar de partilharem o mesmo protocolo e código-fonte aberto, as aplicações instalam-se no computador do utilizador, funcionando como se tivessem acesso exclusivo e detivessem o controlo do PC. Para além de confusão a que a existência de vários clientes na mesma máquina induz, esta “balkanização do BitTorrent” como lhe chama Janko Roettgers, poderá levar a alterações indesejadas das configurações dos tipos de ficheiros, podendo os utilizadores incomodados acabar por removerem todas as aplicações. Este seria o cenário do regresso da “guerra dos leitores de media” do século passado entre Real Networks e Microsoft… Por outro lado, os trackers de torrents poderão banir os clientes incompatíveis e que aldrabam o seu valor de rácio.  Quanto a este ponto, embora o Smaran afirme que o processo de associação de ficheiros pela aplicação instalada mais recente seja algo comum na esmagadora maioria do software de todos os sistemas operativos, a questão da profusão de clientes incompatíveis fica, contudo, por resolver. […]

]]> By: NewTeeVee » Mark Cuban: “OMGWTFBBQ!!!1!!!one!” http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1071 NewTeeVee » Mark Cuban: “OMGWTFBBQ!!!1!!!one!” Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:08:06 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1071 <p>[…] Mark Cuban’s post expressing his reservations about the BitTorrent protocol was bound to draw some responses from the passionate peer-to-peer community. Our guest contributor Janko thinks he might have one good point, at least. TorrentFreak wrote a measured response. And this week, BitTorrent creator and CEO Bram Cohen wrote a less measured response. […]</p> […] Mark Cuban’s post expressing his reservations about the BitTorrent protocol was bound to draw some responses from the passionate peer-to-peer community. Our guest contributor Janko thinks he might have one good point, at least. TorrentFreak wrote a measured response. And this week, BitTorrent creator and CEO Bram Cohen wrote a less measured response. […]

]]> By: NewTeeVee » BitTorrent Launching This Month http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1070 NewTeeVee » BitTorrent Launching This Month Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:34:34 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1070 <p>[…] In an article by Mark Sullivan on Light Reading it’s been revealed that the long-awaited BitTorrent content network will be released this month. Originally planned for a launch by the end of the year, the holdup was negotiations with content partners. Despite BT detractors like Mark Cuban, or angry ISPs and some defamatory rhetoric from Cisco, content providers seem eager to use BitTorrent in order to reduce the costs associated with distributing massive digital files. […]</p> […] In an article by Mark Sullivan on Light Reading it’s been revealed that the long-awaited BitTorrent content network will be released this month. Originally planned for a launch by the end of the year, the holdup was negotiations with content partners. Despite BT detractors like Mark Cuban, or angry ISPs and some defamatory rhetoric from Cisco, content providers seem eager to use BitTorrent in order to reduce the costs associated with distributing massive digital files. […]

]]> By: Technology News in Vietnamese » Adobe và tham vọng P2P http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1069 Technology News in Vietnamese » Adobe và tham vọng P2P Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:19:53 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1069 <p>[…] There are fears6 that a coming balkanization of BitTorrent7 resulting from increased commercial efforts will thwart it from becoming a widely adopted distribution platform. And more and more ISPs are increasingly blocking torrent-based content. Kontiki, however, monitors the flow of pieces of content around a network, and should be able to avoid that backlash. This is a way for P2P to really — really — go mainstream. […]</p> […] There are fears6 that a coming balkanization of BitTorrent7 resulting from increased commercial efforts will thwart it from becoming a widely adopted distribution platform. And more and more ISPs are increasingly blocking torrent-based content. Kontiki, however, monitors the flow of pieces of content around a network, and should be able to avoid that backlash. This is a way for P2P to really — really — go mainstream. […]

]]> By: Mark Cuban: BitTorrent is Doomed | TorrentFreak http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1068 Mark Cuban: BitTorrent is Doomed | TorrentFreak Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:49:38 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1068 <p>[…] What do you think? Are the days of P2P over? Is the the balkanisation of BitTorrent imminent? […]</p> […] What do you think? Are the days of P2P over? Is the the balkanisation of BitTorrent imminent? […]

]]> By: Mirza http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1067 Mirza Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:28:52 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1067 <p>Balkanization? You think you what does this word mean? And you know what was happening on Balkan?</p> <p>I hate these so called "journalists"</p> Balkanization? You think you what does this word mean? And you know what was happening on Balkan?

I hate these so called “journalists”

]]> By: Lone Jim http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1066 Lone Jim Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:58:27 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1066 <p>Marc Cuban has absolutely NO IDEA what he's talking about. He's so clueless it's not even funny.</p> Marc Cuban has absolutely NO IDEA what he’s talking about. He’s so clueless it’s not even funny.

]]> By: Arded http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1065 Arded Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:07:15 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1065 <p>Maybe these guys are also concerned about the <a href="http://www.tmcnet.com/news/2007/01/08/2220713.htm" rel="nofollow">patents</a> from Swarmcast.</p> Maybe these guys are also concerned about the patents from Swarmcast.

]]> By: Lawrence Low http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1064 Lawrence Low Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:54:54 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1064 <p>One person's balkanization is another's business model.</p> <p>Heddy's thinking is on the right track from the perspective of creating BitTorrent businesses. There is a divergence in the application of the technology intended to deliver specific benefits to different users.</p> <p>Bit torrent the technology has proven itself to be a very powerful technology for distributing large files. AllPeers and Pando were created to deliver a type of benefit to users. The question is whether they can get enough users to pay enough to build a business around this. </p> <p>BitTorrent Inc the business that has received $28.75m in venture funding necessarily needs to move in the direction of creating a closed source branch of the bit-torrent technology to deliver the benefits to content creators and content users. While technology purist might bemoan the loss of interoperability, if BitTorrent Inc is able to make bit-torrent technology work like magic to the mass user as a new way to consume video content, there is an opportunity to create a business of iPodian proportions. </p> <p>For those that like the pure technology, there will always be the reference open source client to play with.</p> One person’s balkanization is another’s business model.

Heddy’s thinking is on the right track from the perspective of creating BitTorrent businesses. There is a divergence in the application of the technology intended to deliver specific benefits to different users.

Bit torrent the technology has proven itself to be a very powerful technology for distributing large files. AllPeers and Pando were created to deliver a type of benefit to users. The question is whether they can get enough users to pay enough to build a business around this.

BitTorrent Inc the business that has received $28.75m in venture funding necessarily needs to move in the direction of creating a closed source branch of the bit-torrent technology to deliver the benefits to content creators and content users. While technology purist might bemoan the loss of interoperability, if BitTorrent Inc is able to make bit-torrent technology work like magic to the mass user as a new way to consume video content, there is an opportunity to create a business of iPodian proportions.

For those that like the pure technology, there will always be the reference open source client to play with.

]]> By: Framtider.net » Blog Archive » links for 2007-01-18 http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1063 Framtider.net » Blog Archive » links for 2007-01-18 Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:26:40 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1063 <p>[…] NewTeeVee: The Balkanization of BitTorrent Bittorrentprogrammen utvecklas så snabbt nu att det finns en risk att det som tidigare var en stort utbud av program som alla byggde på samma protokoll och kunde umgås utan problem är på väg att splittras upp i flera olika privata system där använ (tags: bittorrent newteevee.com mark_cuban) […]</p> […] NewTeeVee: The Balkanization of BitTorrent Bittorrentprogrammen utvecklas så snabbt nu att det finns en risk att det som tidigare var en stort utbud av program som alla byggde på samma protokoll och kunde umgås utan problem är på väg att splittras upp i flera olika privata system där använ (tags: bittorrent newteevee.com mark_cuban) […]

]]> By: Yaron http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1062 Yaron Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:43:46 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1062 <p>Hi everyone, Yaron from Pando here.</p> <p>Just a quick clarification -- Pando will support generic .torrent downloads in an upcoming version. This makes sense for everyone, most importantly our users.</p> Hi everyone, Yaron from Pando here.

Just a quick clarification — Pando will support generic .torrent downloads in an upcoming version. This makes sense for everyone, most importantly our users.

]]> By: Tim http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1061 Tim Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:24:09 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1061 <p>heddy, like your comments. have a few questions for you offline. can you please email at nocturnien-like@yahoo.com?</p> <p>by the way, allpeers incorporating bittorrent code is like solaris incorporaing unix code. it is not quite the same and lacks interoperability. allpeers is using code from a shop called Amicima</p> heddy, like your comments. have a few questions for you offline. can you please email at nocturnien-like@yahoo.com?

by the way, allpeers incorporating bittorrent code is like solaris incorporaing unix code. it is not quite the same and lacks interoperability. allpeers is using code from a shop called Amicima

]]> By: Janko Roettgers http://newteevee.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1060 Janko Roettgers Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:24:04 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/18/the-balkanization-of-bittorrent/#comment-1060 <p>Heddy, Allpeers is incorporating Bittorrent code. Just look in the subdirectories and you'll find it.</p> Heddy, Allpeers is incorporating Bittorrent code. Just look in the subdirectories and you’ll find it.

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