Comments on: Google Video Transitions to Video Search http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/ NewTeeVee Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:17:22 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: NewTeeVee Google Video, Now a Search Engine « http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-8542 NewTeeVee Google Video, Now a Search Engine « Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:52:57 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-8542 <p>[...] sites across the web, using an interface similar to its image search engine. This follows up on an announcement to this effect from January, after Google admitted defeat in the video-sharing space to YouTube and [...]</p> [...] sites across the web, using an interface similar to its image search engine. This follows up on an announcement to this effect from January, after Google admitted defeat in the video-sharing space to YouTube and [...]

]]> By: A look ahead at Google Video and YouTube http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1251 A look ahead at Google Video and YouTube Thu, 31 May 2007 23:39:35 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1251 <p>[...] respective strengths while keeping both companies independent from each other. Google video will transition to become a search engine for video all over the net, no matter where it’s hosted, and YouTube [...]</p> [...] respective strengths while keeping both companies independent from each other. Google video will transition to become a search engine for video all over the net, no matter where it’s hosted, and YouTube [...]

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]]> By: Google Video Helps Up YouTube Traffic 18.5% » D’ Technology Weblog — Technology, Blogging, Gadgets, Fashion, Life Style. http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1249 Google Video Helps Up YouTube Traffic 18.5% » D’ Technology Weblog — Technology, Blogging, Gadgets, Fashion, Life Style. Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:16:28 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1249 <p>[…] Hitwise’s Bill Tancer reports YouTube is already seeing the benefit of parent Google indexing it into its Google Video search last Thursday. Week to week, YouTube’s market share of U.S. internet visits rose to .64 percent from .54 percent, an increase of 18.5 percent. […]</p> […] Hitwise’s Bill Tancer reports YouTube is already seeing the benefit of parent Google indexing it into its Google Video search last Thursday. Week to week, YouTube’s market share of U.S. internet visits rose to .64 percent from .54 percent, an increase of 18.5 percent. […]

]]> By: NewTeeVee » Google Video Helps Up YouTube Traffic 18.5% http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1248 NewTeeVee » Google Video Helps Up YouTube Traffic 18.5% Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:21:07 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1248 <p>[…] Hitwise’s Bill Tancer reports YouTube is already seeing the benefit of parent Google indexing it into its Google Video search last Thursday. Week to week, YouTube’s market share of U.S. internet visits rose to .64 percent from .54 percent, an increase of 18.5 percent. […]</p> […] Hitwise’s Bill Tancer reports YouTube is already seeing the benefit of parent Google indexing it into its Google Video search last Thursday. Week to week, YouTube’s market share of U.S. internet visits rose to .64 percent from .54 percent, an increase of 18.5 percent. […]

]]> By: Every Bit You Make » Blog Archive » google transistions http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1247 Every Bit You Make » Blog Archive » google transistions Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:20:24 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1247 <p>[…] from NewTeeVee A lingering question since Google’s acquisition of YouTube has been what the parent company will do with its own video product, which it effectively announced was not good enough back in October2. Posted by daniel Filed in Uncategorized […]</p> […] from NewTeeVee A lingering question since Google’s acquisition of YouTube has been what the parent company will do with its own video product, which it effectively announced was not good enough back in October2. Posted by daniel Filed in Uncategorized […]

]]> By: Media Cool Hunting » Blog Archive » A look ahead at Google Video and YouTube http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1246 Media Cool Hunting » Blog Archive » A look ahead at Google Video and YouTube Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:43:00 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1246 <p>[…] Since Google bought YouTube a few months ago it hasn’t been clear how the two companies would work together. This last thursday Google announced, (Digg), how Google Video and YouTube would continue to play to their respective strengths while keeping both companies independent from each other. Google video will transition to become a search engine for video all over the net, no matter where it’s hosted, and YouTube will keep on hosting and experimenting with people generated video under their own brand name. […]</p> […] Since Google bought YouTube a few months ago it hasn’t been clear how the two companies would work together. This last thursday Google announced, (Digg), how Google Video and YouTube would continue to play to their respective strengths while keeping both companies independent from each other. Google video will transition to become a search engine for video all over the net, no matter where it’s hosted, and YouTube will keep on hosting and experimenting with people generated video under their own brand name. […]

]]> By: Digital Tech News http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1245 Digital Tech News Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:09:17 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1245 <p><strong>YouTube Videos added to Google Video Search Index…</strong></p> <p>Even before Google's acquisition of YouTube last November, Google search results included links to content hosted on YouTube, but now you can search Google Video for videos from YouTube, and the results appear in the Google Video search index as…</p> YouTube Videos added to Google Video Search Index…

Even before Google’s acquisition of YouTube last November, Google search results included links to content hosted on YouTube, but now you can search Google Video for videos from YouTube, and the results appear in the Google Video search index as…

]]> By: Liz Gannes http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1244 Liz Gannes Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:52:55 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1244 <p>You're right, improving site search on YouTube would be great. I am making a distinction between search within a controlled space and search everywhere. If the two ideas become the same thing, that's what I find less interesting.</p> You’re right, improving site search on YouTube would be great. I am making a distinction between search within a controlled space and search everywhere. If the two ideas become the same thing, that’s what I find less interesting.

]]> By: Anna Sebestyen http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1243 Anna Sebestyen Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:47:24 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1243 <p>Liz, thanks for your clarification, but I still do not get it. :)</p> <p>“the high proportion of video on YouTube/Google makes the concept of video search less interesting.” Quite on the contrary. Lots of stuff (video) makes the concept of (video) search crucial/competitive advantage. Especially in growing competition.</p> <p>If YouTube was cloned, and equipped with an excellent search algorithm, it would take away those millions of eyeballs in the long run from the present YouTube. In a better site’ e.g. I could a, see the best quality Colbert report, b, of the exact date I am looking for, c, in a mobile version, d, and in the original version (not a home video response), e, in black and white (if at all) etc. to mention but a few problems Google needs to deal with.</p> <p>On Google Video and YouTube: check these keywords: colbert, -report, -stephen, -steven I still get results with Stephen Colbert, although I pretended to search for ‘any other colbert but the guy from s.c. report’ because the system is not good enough. The negative search was only able to filter what the accompanying text is, and not the video. It is still not 100% performance, not clever enough. It did not recognize a cultural product of ’s.c. report’ - yet (!).</p> <p>And yes, Google will start crawling for video. No assumption: explicitly stated intention by Google VP Product Management, Salar Kamangar. Should have done so a lot earlier, in fact.</p> <p>And it is also true in a way that G and Yt are ‘one company’, but maybe it’s more precise to say that G has decided to launch two kinds of video services: G Video (self developed) and Yt (buy-up), and they will be both in competition for users’ eyeballs, and in complementary relationship regarding users’ intentions and advertiser’s preferences.</p> <p>(I don’t know if we are still talking at cross purposes. :) Help me to understand better what you mean.)</p> Liz, thanks for your clarification, but I still do not get it. :)

“the high proportion of video on YouTube/Google makes the concept of video search less interesting.” Quite on the contrary. Lots of stuff (video) makes the concept of (video) search crucial/competitive advantage. Especially in growing competition.

If YouTube was cloned, and equipped with an excellent search algorithm, it would take away those millions of eyeballs in the long run from the present YouTube. In a better site’ e.g. I could
a, see the best quality Colbert report,
b, of the exact date I am looking for,
c, in a mobile version,
d, and in the original version (not a home video response),
e, in black and white (if at all) etc.
to mention but a few problems Google needs to deal with.

On Google Video and YouTube: check these keywords:
colbert, -report, -stephen, -steven
I still get results with Stephen Colbert, although I pretended to search for ‘any other colbert but the guy from s.c. report’ because the system is not good enough. The negative search was only able to filter what the accompanying text is, and not the video. It is still not 100% performance, not clever enough. It did not recognize a cultural product of ’s.c. report’ – yet (!).

And yes, Google will start crawling for video. No assumption: explicitly stated intention by Google VP Product Management, Salar Kamangar. Should have done so a lot earlier, in fact.

And it is also true in a way that G and Yt are ‘one company’, but maybe it’s more precise to say that G has decided to launch two kinds of video services: G Video (self developed) and Yt (buy-up), and they will be both in competition for users’ eyeballs, and in complementary relationship regarding users’ intentions and advertiser’s preferences.

(I don’t know if we are still talking at cross purposes. :) Help me to understand better what you mean.)

]]> By: Liz Gannes http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1242 Liz Gannes Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:28:59 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1242 <p>Thanks for the thoughtful responses. I want to clarify one thing regarding Anna's comment. My question about taking a sidetrip to a search engine was not so much a criticism of Google maintaining two sites. After all, Google and YouTube are now one and the same company. My point was more that the high proportion of video on YouTube/Google makes the concept of video search less interesting. </p> <p>Google Video is now, as bdc points out, search as applied to a controlled index, rather than search that results from crawling all the content out there. I would assume Google will start crawling for video, but today it's pretty productive to just look through the two sites it owns.</p> Thanks for the thoughtful responses. I want to clarify one thing regarding Anna’s comment. My question about taking a sidetrip to a search engine was not so much a criticism of Google maintaining two sites. After all, Google and YouTube are now one and the same company. My point was more that the high proportion of video on YouTube/Google makes the concept of video search less interesting.

Google Video is now, as bdc points out, search as applied to a controlled index, rather than search that results from crawling all the content out there. I would assume Google will start crawling for video, but today it’s pretty productive to just look through the two sites it owns.

]]> By: How is Google generating revenue on YouTube? « Google in Hungary and search as such http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1241 How is Google generating revenue on YouTube? « Google in Hungary and search as such Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:47:27 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1241 <p>[…] Liz Gannes on NewTeeVee is asking why is it worth running two video sites? (”why take a sidetrip to a search engine when you’ll end up on YouTube anyway?”) […]</p> […] Liz Gannes on NewTeeVee is asking why is it worth running two video sites? (”why take a sidetrip to a search engine when you’ll end up on YouTube anyway?”) […]

]]> By: Anna Sebestyen http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1240 Anna Sebestyen Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:04:08 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1240 <p>Sorry, it’s a bit longish: Based on Google's policy, I think it is out of question that Google could afford to be a biased video search engine - users’ trust is their biggest asset (besides lava lamps). As for running two sites (one for Youtube and one for Google video search): I think it is totally reasonable and profitable. Reason 1: they have different profiles, roles, images as defined by Google (as Salar Kamangar put it, one for content the other for search – the options in AdWords) Reason 2: with two brands you have more scope for experimenting Reason 3: the combination of the above two From the user’s point of view: On YouTube you accidently ‘stumble upon’ and interact On Google video search you purposefully search and spend no time on socializing From the media point of view: Youtube functions as a content site of Google’s content network with a distinct community and with more scope for applying, testing various ad formats. And these tests, mind you, will be less affecting Google brand, as YouTube is separate. So video shots interrupted by an ad on YouTube will not clash with Google’s aim to ‘enhance user experience,’ because it is not Google. Being intrusive on YouTube while ‘finding out how to reduce being intrusive to the minimum’ works on the YouTube brand better and safer. How they are carrying out video ads is absolutely an exciting question. When Marissa Mayer was asked about it at Digital Life Design conference (DLD07) in Munich, she said they are experimenting and gathering data, feedback, etc. on what works best. See: http://videos.dld-conference.com/ (day: Jan 23, The Billion Dollar Bubble). “There are lots of different business models… Maybe it means the user needs pay directly for the service, maybe it means advertisers will pay more…advertisers are good at valuing those eyeballs.” It is baffling though why haven’t they improved the searches (awful lists). Also, why haven’t they tried to experiment with dividing youtube into two main columns as they do on Google search results pages: one column for organic video search and one for sponsored videos with bid management - based on similar principles to search algorithm. But maybe this division is coming on Google video search – which is worth being kept, if it works as an aggregator (and back to statement 1: they are going to index all sources they can/ are allowed to) with no social networking features, focusing on search, and potentially, with a differentiated method of generating ad revenue.</p> Sorry, it’s a bit longish:
Based on Google’s policy, I think it is out of question that Google could afford to be a biased video search engine – users’ trust is their biggest asset (besides lava lamps).
As for running two sites (one for Youtube and one for Google video search): I think it is totally reasonable and profitable.
Reason 1: they have different profiles, roles, images as defined by Google (as Salar Kamangar put it, one for content the other for search – the options in AdWords)
Reason 2: with two brands you have more scope for experimenting
Reason 3: the combination of the above two
From the user’s point of view:
On YouTube you accidently ‘stumble upon’ and interact
On Google video search you purposefully search and spend no time on socializing
From the media point of view:
Youtube functions as a content site of Google’s content network with a distinct community and with more scope for applying, testing various ad formats. And these tests, mind you, will be less affecting Google brand, as YouTube is separate. So video shots interrupted by an ad on YouTube will not clash with Google’s aim to ‘enhance user experience,’ because it is not Google. Being intrusive on YouTube while ‘finding out how to reduce being intrusive to the minimum’ works on the YouTube brand better and safer.
How they are carrying out video ads is absolutely an exciting question. When Marissa Mayer was asked about it at Digital Life Design conference (DLD07) in Munich, she said they are experimenting and gathering data, feedback, etc. on what works best. See: http://videos.dld-conference.com/ (day: Jan 23, The Billion Dollar Bubble). “There are lots of different business models… Maybe it means the user needs pay directly for the service, maybe it means advertisers will pay more…advertisers are good at valuing those eyeballs.”
It is baffling though why haven’t they improved the searches (awful lists). Also, why haven’t they tried to experiment with dividing youtube into two main columns as they do on Google search results pages: one column for organic video search and one for sponsored videos with bid management – based on similar principles to search algorithm. But maybe this division is coming on Google video search – which is worth being kept, if it works as an aggregator (and back to statement 1: they are going to index all sources they can/ are allowed to) with no social networking features, focusing on search, and potentially, with a differentiated method of generating ad revenue.

]]> By: Social Twist » Blog Archive » Google Addittions to YouTube http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1239 Social Twist » Blog Archive » Google Addittions to YouTube Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:19:51 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1239 <p>[…] Good coverage and discussion of the announcements can be found at NewTeeVee, Micropersuasion, and Google Operating System. This is the top discussion right now on Techmeme.” [SplashCast] […]</p> […] Good coverage and discussion of the announcements can be found at NewTeeVee, Micropersuasion, and Google Operating System. This is the top discussion right now on Techmeme.” [SplashCast] […]

]]> By: Yohay http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1238 Yohay Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:10:09 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1238 <p>I hope that Google will play a fair game, and not promote YouTube videos over competitors’ ones such as Metacafe, Daily Motion, Revver and many others.</p> <p>Since Youtube dominates the video sharing world, I’m sure that even if Google will play a fair game, Youtube’s videos will dominate search results as well, thus drawing lots of criticism.</p> I hope that Google will play a fair game, and not promote YouTube videos over competitors’ ones such as Metacafe, Daily Motion, Revver and many others.

Since Youtube dominates the video sharing world, I’m sure that even if Google will play a fair game, Youtube’s videos will dominate search results as well, thus drawing lots of criticism.

]]> By: DrDoubt http://newteevee.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1237 DrDoubt Fri, 26 Jan 2007 07:35:46 +0000 http://newteevee.wordpress.com/2007/01/25/google-video-transitions-to-video-search/#comment-1237 <p>What I do not understand is this: they could have indexed youtube pretty decently without buying them ?</p> What I do not understand is this: they could have indexed youtube pretty decently without buying them ?

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