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		<title>By: shouting loudly &#187; Viacom v. YouTube</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2007/03/13/are-you-kidding-a-billion-dollars/#comment-2320</link>
		<dc:creator>shouting loudly &#187; Viacom v. YouTube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] to expand its offline audiences, because monetizing internet video is a far sketchier proposition. YouTube brought in $15m last year. Viacom? $11.5 BILLION. If you made almost 1,000 times as much in the old media market as the most [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to expand its offline audiences, because monetizing internet video is a far sketchier proposition. YouTube brought in $15m last year. Viacom? $11.5 BILLION. If you made almost 1,000 times as much in the old media market as the most [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Viacom Suing Google For $1 Billion Dollars &#171; Podcast Junky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viacom Suing Google For $1 Billion Dollars &#171; Podcast Junky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Are You Kidding?  A Billion Dollars?  [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Search Engine Land: News About Search Engines &#38; Search Marketing</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2007/03/13/are-you-kidding-a-billion-dollars/#comment-2321</link>
		<dc:creator>Search Engine Land: News About Search Engines &#38; Search Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Big Viacom Sues GOOG &amp; YouTube Roundup...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yesterday, news came out about Viacom suing Google for $1 billion over alleged video copyright infringement on YouTube. With some dust settling, I thought it would be helpful to recap some of the analysis out there. I&#039;m pulling this roundup mostly fro...&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Yesterday, news came out about Viacom suing Google for $1 billion over alleged video copyright infringement on YouTube. With some dust settling, I thought it would be helpful to recap some of the analysis out there. I&#8217;m pulling this roundup mostly fro&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: xxdesmus</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2007/03/13/are-you-kidding-a-billion-dollars/#comment-2318</link>
		<dc:creator>xxdesmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is quote from a smart guy over at TechCrunch...he said it just about as well as I ever might so just read this:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;you are forgetting that the DMCA Safe Harbor provision only applies to hosts. I would anticipate that part of Viacom’s strategy will be to question whether YouTube reasonably qualifies as a host. Unfortunately, the DMCA does not do a great job at defining a host (it was written in the late 90s), however I believe that it did not intend for a service such as YouTube to be considered one. See my post above (#39) for the three arguments against YouTube being a host. As PJ correctly points out, one of the arguments against YouTube being a host revolves around the transcoding of videos into FLV format. I don’t see how the traditional definition of a “host” as contemplated when the DMCA was drafted would apply to a service that formats content. Essentially, YouTube is directly involved in the infringement not only because it has a significant financial incentive but because it directly facilitates infringement through the prepartion of the content for display. It is not as if users are simply uploading their content to a YouTube server where other users can download it in raw format. YouTube is involved in all aspects of the infringment: putting content into a format that enables it to be played and shared via YouTube’s player and then providing tools to easily organize and locate content. And to top it off it is benefitting financially by showing advertising.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Using Napster as a comparison, Napster simply provided a “directory” of where infringing content was located. It didn’t host it, didn’t transcode it and actually didn’t benefit much financially (although it did raise substantial funding which counts). On the surface, it seems to me that Google is facing a serious legal challenge.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It sounds like unless Google strikes a deal they will be in for a world of hurt.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is quote from a smart guy over at TechCrunch&#8230;he said it just about as well as I ever might so just read this:</p>
<p>&#8220;you are forgetting that the DMCA Safe Harbor provision only applies to hosts. I would anticipate that part of Viacom’s strategy will be to question whether YouTube reasonably qualifies as a host. Unfortunately, the DMCA does not do a great job at defining a host (it was written in the late 90s), however I believe that it did not intend for a service such as YouTube to be considered one. See my post above (#39) for the three arguments against YouTube being a host. As PJ correctly points out, one of the arguments against YouTube being a host revolves around the transcoding of videos into FLV format. I don’t see how the traditional definition of a “host” as contemplated when the DMCA was drafted would apply to a service that formats content. Essentially, YouTube is directly involved in the infringement not only because it has a significant financial incentive but because it directly facilitates infringement through the prepartion of the content for display. It is not as if users are simply uploading their content to a YouTube server where other users can download it in raw format. YouTube is involved in all aspects of the infringment: putting content into a format that enables it to be played and shared via YouTube’s player and then providing tools to easily organize and locate content. And to top it off it is benefitting financially by showing advertising.</p>
<p>Using Napster as a comparison, Napster simply provided a “directory” of where infringing content was located. It didn’t host it, didn’t transcode it and actually didn’t benefit much financially (although it did raise substantial funding which counts). On the surface, it seems to me that Google is facing a serious legal challenge.&#8221;</p>
<p>It sounds like unless Google strikes a deal they will be in for a world of hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: Technology Today &#187; Streamcast Heading Back To Write The Latest Chapter In The Grokster Supreme Court Ruling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Technology Today &#187; Streamcast Heading Back To Write The Latest Chapter In The Grokster Supreme Court Ruling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] indirectly drives viewers to its revenue-generating products. Update: Over at NewTeeVee, Liz Gannes takes a look at the numbers, while on IP Democracy, Cynthia Brumfield has examined the suit and calls it [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] indirectly drives viewers to its revenue-generating products. Update: Over at NewTeeVee, Liz Gannes takes a look at the numbers, while on IP Democracy, Cynthia Brumfield has examined the suit and calls it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: howard Lindzon</title>
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		<dc:creator>howard Lindzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;good funny post.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;lawyers win&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good funny post.</p>
<p>lawyers win</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson West</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cue Doctor Evil Voice: &quot;We will demand one &lt;em&gt;billion&lt;/em&gt; dollars.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cue Doctor Evil Voice: &#8220;We will demand one <em>billion</em> dollars.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt_</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2007/03/13/are-you-kidding-a-billion-dollars/#comment-2313</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Liz I think that Viacom are claiming high so they can either force Google to sign a deal on their terms and not Youtube&#039;s or receive a judgement that will force YouTube and Google video to put filters in place like many of the companies p2p  have had to do after Grokster .&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kazaa is still in business and Joost only came to life after Zenstrom and Friss paid 20 Million of their own money in the $125 million suit against Kazaa.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz I think that Viacom are claiming high so they can either force Google to sign a deal on their terms and not Youtube&#8217;s or receive a judgement that will force YouTube and Google video to put filters in place like many of the companies p2p  have had to do after Grokster .</p>
<p>Kazaa is still in business and Joost only came to life after Zenstrom and Friss paid 20 Million of their own money in the $125 million suit against Kazaa.</p>
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		<title>By: MovieWalah</title>
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		<dc:creator>MovieWalah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If YouTube made 1.6 billion by spreading southpark and Daily show videos....they should be ready to pay a chunk back to Cartman and jon stewart....&quot;respect my Authoritah youtube&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If YouTube made 1.6 billion by spreading southpark and Daily show videos&#8230;.they should be ready to pay a chunk back to Cartman and jon stewart&#8230;.&#8221;respect my Authoritah youtube&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: GigaOM &#187; Viacom sues YouTube for $1 billion</title>
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		<dc:creator>GigaOM &#187; Viacom sues YouTube for $1 billion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Viacom argues that YouTube has knowingly infringed on others&#8217; copyrights, but I guess it is the &#8220;knowingly&#8221; part that is going to be hard to prove. As Cynthia points out, &#8220;There is nothing in this complaint at all about the DMCA and whether YouTube is violating that law, which protects websites from infringement liability if the sites comply with rights holders’ take-down requests.&#8221; The whole thing is a little kooky, including the math behind the numbers, as Liz points out. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Viacom argues that YouTube has knowingly infringed on others&#8217; copyrights, but I guess it is the &#8220;knowingly&#8221; part that is going to be hard to prove. As Cynthia points out, &#8220;There is nothing in this complaint at all about the DMCA and whether YouTube is violating that law, which protects websites from infringement liability if the sites comply with rights holders’ take-down requests.&#8221; The whole thing is a little kooky, including the math behind the numbers, as Liz points out. [...]</p>
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