Comments on: Comcast Does Indeed Block BitTorrent http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/ NewTeeVee Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:42:24 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: BitTorrent Layoffs | Web Design http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-248487 BitTorrent Layoffs | Web Design Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:53:09 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-248487 <p>[...] Navin is leaving the firm. The BitTorrent Entertainment Network will be closing.  Comcast has been blocking the BitTorrent P2P portocol for some [...]</p> [...] Navin is leaving the firm. The BitTorrent Entertainment Network will be closing.  Comcast has been blocking the BitTorrent P2P portocol for some [...]

]]> By: Comcast Cameras to Start Watching You? | Alternative News Sources http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-237158 Comcast Cameras to Start Watching You? | Alternative News Sources Sat, 03 May 2008 02:02:17 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-237158 <p>[...] about the depths to which Comcast currently tracks my every move. I can’t trust Comcast with BitTorrent, so why should I trust them with my must-be-kept-secret, DVR-clogging addiction to Keeping Up with [...]</p> [...] about the depths to which Comcast currently tracks my every move. I can’t trust Comcast with BitTorrent, so why should I trust them with my must-be-kept-secret, DVR-clogging addiction to Keeping Up with [...]

]]> By: Comcast Cable CTO: Bandwidth Hogs Will Experience Slowdowns - GigaOM http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-235174 Comcast Cable CTO: Bandwidth Hogs Will Experience Slowdowns - GigaOM Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:24:49 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-235174 <p>[...] left me dazed and confused. It was basically a roundabout way for the cable company to backtrack from its P2P traffic-blocking gaffe. In describing the deal, Comcast tried to shift the focus away from their so-called “network [...]</p> [...] left me dazed and confused. It was basically a roundabout way for the cable company to backtrack from its P2P traffic-blocking gaffe. In describing the deal, Comcast tried to shift the focus away from their so-called “network [...]

]]> By: Information Comcast Cameras to Start Watching You? - DN For United Mankind Forum http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-234567 Information Comcast Cameras to Start Watching You? - DN For United Mankind Forum Sun, 23 Mar 2008 06:28:04 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-234567 [...] naive about the depths to which Comcast currently tracks my every move. I can’t trust Comcast with BitTorrent, so why should I trust them with my must-be-kept-secret, DVR-clogging addiction to Keeping Up with [...]

]]> By: Daily WTF: Comcast wants to watch you watch TV « This Just In http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-234324 Daily WTF: Comcast wants to watch you watch TV « This Just In Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:11:00 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-234324 <p>[...] already do that)?Others have already pointed out that we already can’t trust Comcast with BitTorrent or to play nice with others. So why would I trust Comcast to put a camera in my freaking [...]</p> [...] already do that)?Others have already pointed out that we already can’t trust Comcast with BitTorrent or to play nice with others. So why would I trust Comcast to put a camera in my freaking [...]

]]> By: Comcast Cameras to Start Watching You? « NewTeeVee http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-234202 Comcast Cameras to Start Watching You? « NewTeeVee Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:42:41 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-234202 <p>[...] about the depths to which Comcast currently tracks my every move. I can’t trust Comcast with BitTorrent, so why should I trust them with my must-be-kept-secret, DVR-clogging addiction to Keeping Up with [...]</p> [...] about the depths to which Comcast currently tracks my every move. I can’t trust Comcast with BitTorrent, so why should I trust them with my must-be-kept-secret, DVR-clogging addiction to Keeping Up with [...]

]]> By: New Bill Reignites Net Neutrality Debate « NewTeeVee http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-231383 New Bill Reignites Net Neutrality Debate « NewTeeVee Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:31:32 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-231383 <p>[...] Bill Reignites Net Neutrality Debate With Comcast blocking BitTorrent (and staunchly defending its right to do so today), AT&T’s ideas about monitoring your [...]</p> [...] Bill Reignites Net Neutrality Debate With Comcast blocking BitTorrent (and staunchly defending its right to do so today), AT&T’s ideas about monitoring your [...]

]]> By: Road Runner, Charter and Cox TOS Also Include Anti-P2P Provisions « NewTeeVee http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-231117 Road Runner, Charter and Cox TOS Also Include Anti-P2P Provisions « NewTeeVee Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:00:33 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-231117 <p>[...] Comcast, which underwent heavy criticism last year for blocking file-sharing services like BitTorrent, has reportedly been caught quietly changing its Terms of Service. Although Comcast has denied that [...]</p> [...] Comcast, which underwent heavy criticism last year for blocking file-sharing services like BitTorrent, has reportedly been caught quietly changing its Terms of Service. Although Comcast has denied that [...]

]]> By: Verizon to Hollywood: I Said, “No, no, no!” « NewTeeVee http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-230903 Verizon to Hollywood: I Said, “No, no, no!” « NewTeeVee Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:57:30 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-230903 <p>[...] openly talked about technological solutions to piracy, and Comcast, which is being investigated for blocking BitTorrent traffic, Verizon is going its own way on this [...]</p> [...] openly talked about technological solutions to piracy, and Comcast, which is being investigated for blocking BitTorrent traffic, Verizon is going its own way on this [...]

]]> By: AT&T Mulls Monitoring Your Traffic « NewTeeVee http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-220439 AT&T Mulls Monitoring Your Traffic « NewTeeVee Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:39:02 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-220439 <p>[...] also at CES, FCC Chair Kevin Martin confirmed that his commission will investigate Comcast blocking BitTorrent traffic (Comcast says it just delays the [...]</p> [...] also at CES, FCC Chair Kevin Martin confirmed that his commission will investigate Comcast blocking BitTorrent traffic (Comcast says it just delays the [...]

]]> By: Vid-Biz: Comcast, Oprah, Revver « NewTeeVee http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-132728 Vid-Biz: Comcast, Oprah, Revver « NewTeeVee Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:09:20 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-132728 <p>[...] Comcast, Oprah, Revver Comcast Still Denying it Blocks P2P; despite being busted and coming under attack from consumer groups, the cable company has released a statement saying it [...]</p> [...] Comcast, Oprah, Revver Comcast Still Denying it Blocks P2P; despite being busted and coming under attack from consumer groups, the cable company has released a statement saying it [...]

]]> By: Senators Want Hearing on BitTorrent Blocking « NewTeeVee http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-129204 Senators Want Hearing on BitTorrent Blocking « NewTeeVee Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:57:21 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-129204 <p>[...] control what happens on their networks, and have been testing their boundaries lately. Outcry over Comcast interfering with BitTorrent file transfers, AT&T restricting user criticism, and Verizon Wireless blocking text messages drew the [...]</p> [...] control what happens on their networks, and have been testing their boundaries lately. Outcry over Comcast interfering with BitTorrent file transfers, AT&T restricting user criticism, and Verizon Wireless blocking text messages drew the [...]

]]> By: Matt_ http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-127399 Matt_ Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:00:12 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-127399 <p>One solution for P2P developers just move to a UDP system I cant wait for the hilarity to ensue when Concast tries to block P2P based video like Joost .</p> One solution for P2P developers just move to a UDP system I cant wait for the hilarity to ensue when Concast tries to block P2P based video like Joost .

]]> By: Torgrim http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-126929 Torgrim Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:13:05 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-126929 <p>K Kumar: I strongly disagree. They're not just throttling the traffic, they are forging TCP packets with the RST-flag enabled, causing connections to drop. And I'd say interfering with a specific protocol, in this case BitTorrent, is an obvious violation of net neutrality. If Comcast has a problem with the bandwidth, they should rather set a fixed limit instead of advertising their service as unlimited.</p> <p>If my ISP did anything like this, I would certainly find a new provider immediately. Luckily, pretty much none of the ISPs here in Norway throttle any kind of traffic, or impose limits on the amount of data you can transfer during a month.</p> <p>Right now I'm on a simple 6.5 Mbps ADSL-connection. But fiber-to-the-home recently became available in my area, and I'm considering getting a 50 Mbps connection. But that is only going to happen if the ISP doesn't interfere with my BitTorrent- or Usenet-traffic.</p> K Kumar:
I strongly disagree. They’re not just throttling the traffic, they are forging TCP packets with the RST-flag enabled, causing connections to drop. And I’d say interfering with a specific protocol, in this case BitTorrent, is an obvious violation of net neutrality. If Comcast has a problem with the bandwidth, they should rather set a fixed limit instead of advertising their service as unlimited.

If my ISP did anything like this, I would certainly find a new provider immediately. Luckily, pretty much none of the ISPs here in Norway throttle any kind of traffic, or impose limits on the amount of data you can transfer during a month.

Right now I’m on a simple 6.5 Mbps ADSL-connection. But fiber-to-the-home recently became available in my area, and I’m considering getting a 50 Mbps connection. But that is only going to happen if the ISP doesn’t interfere with my BitTorrent- or Usenet-traffic.

]]> By: K Kumar http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-126564 K Kumar Sat, 20 Oct 2007 07:12:09 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-126564 <p>Can't blame Comcast for protecting the bandwidth and experience of the others when a P2P session slows the others down on the network.</p> <p>A Cable network is shared, of course, in the last mile.</p> <p>And a P2P network is built to capture all the bandwidth that is available (upstream AND downstream). So, when our neighbour starts downloading video via P2P - usually pirated, mind you - he is being selfish in capturing all available bandwidth. The effect on all others surfing is to slow them all down.</p> <p>Do we blame Comcast for slowing down the biggest users so we get our access normally? Does that hamper net-neutrality?</p> <p>I think not. Not as long as the P2P users are not unduly distressed, and us others are able to get the service we're paying for.</p> Can’t blame Comcast for protecting the bandwidth and experience of the others when a P2P session slows the others down on the network.

A Cable network is shared, of course, in the last mile.

And a P2P network is built to capture all the bandwidth that is available (upstream AND downstream). So, when our neighbour starts downloading video via P2P – usually pirated, mind you – he is being selfish in capturing all available bandwidth. The effect on all others surfing is to slow them all down.

Do we blame Comcast for slowing down the biggest users so we get our access normally? Does that hamper net-neutrality?

I think not. Not as long as the P2P users are not unduly distressed, and us others are able to get the service we’re paying for.

]]> By: Lance Newell http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-126306 Lance Newell Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:21:29 +0000 http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/comcast-does-indeed-block-bittorrent/#comment-126306 <p>and I am paying for this...sheeesh....</p> and I am paying for this…sheeesh….

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