Comments on: NBC: P2P Is Evil — Except When We Use It http://newteevee.com/2008/02/29/nbc-p2p-is-evil-except-when-we-use-it/ NewTeeVee Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:45:20 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Canadian Content Producers Take a Stand for Net Neutrality http://newteevee.com/2008/02/29/nbc-p2p-is-evil-except-when-we-use-it/#comment-264705 Canadian Content Producers Take a Stand for Net Neutrality Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:01:59 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3327#comment-264705 <p>[...] year, even though the ISP got some major backing from the entertainment industry. Both the MPAA and NBC filed a motion with the FCC in support of Comcast, with NBC arguing that BitTorrent was used mostly for illegal file-sharing [...]</p> [...] year, even though the ISP got some major backing from the entertainment industry. Both the MPAA and NBC filed a motion with the FCC in support of Comcast, with NBC arguing that BitTorrent was used mostly for illegal file-sharing [...]

]]> By: NBC: P2P Is Evil — Except When We Use It | Fresh Web 2.0 News http://newteevee.com/2008/02/29/nbc-p2p-is-evil-except-when-we-use-it/#comment-236289 NBC: P2P Is Evil — Except When We Use It | Fresh Web 2.0 News Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:31:28 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3327#comment-236289 <p>[...] using Pando’s P2P profession to “provide jillions of audience liberated DVD-quality downloads.” Contine datum at Newteevee.com. Tags: nbc, nbcu, netneutrality, comcast, pando, [...]</p> [...] using Pando’s P2P profession to “provide jillions of audience liberated DVD-quality downloads.” Contine datum at Newteevee.com. Tags: nbc, nbcu, netneutrality, comcast, pando, [...]

]]> By: NBC Universal Argue That ISPs Blocking File Sharing BitTorrent Traffic Is Justified » Web TV Wire http://newteevee.com/2008/02/29/nbc-p2p-is-evil-except-when-we-use-it/#comment-233393 NBC Universal Argue That ISPs Blocking File Sharing BitTorrent Traffic Is Justified » Web TV Wire Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:15:09 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3327#comment-233393 <p>[...] should stick to making Gorilla movies, and hope that when it begins to distribute its flicks using the same technology it’s fighting against at the FCC, that we won this [...]</p> [...] should stick to making Gorilla movies, and hope that when it begins to distribute its flicks using the same technology it’s fighting against at the FCC, that we won this [...]

]]> By: Tech LawForum » NBC’s Lawyers Didn’t Get the Memo http://newteevee.com/2008/02/29/nbc-p2p-is-evil-except-when-we-use-it/#comment-233229 Tech LawForum » NBC’s Lawyers Didn’t Get the Memo Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:27:43 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3327#comment-233229 <p>[...] controversy, they didn’t have many good things to say about P2P technology. They also didn’t seem to realize that NBC is itself using BitTorrent. The NBC Direct service, which will supposedly launch within the next three or four weeks, uses [...]</p> [...] controversy, they didn’t have many good things to say about P2P technology. They also didn’t seem to realize that NBC is itself using BitTorrent. The NBC Direct service, which will supposedly launch within the next three or four weeks, uses [...]

]]> By: The Great Geek Manual News » NBC: P2P Is Evil — Except When We Use It http://newteevee.com/2008/02/29/nbc-p2p-is-evil-except-when-we-use-it/#comment-233054 The Great Geek Manual News » NBC: P2P Is Evil — Except When We Use It Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:20:17 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3327#comment-233054 <p>[...] Read the Entire Story…Source: New TeeVee [...]</p> [...] Read the Entire Story…Source: New TeeVee [...]

]]> By: Matt_ http://newteevee.com/2008/02/29/nbc-p2p-is-evil-except-when-we-use-it/#comment-232916 Matt_ Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:19:48 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3327#comment-232916 <p>NBC made the same PR Statements about how great its deal with Peer Impact was all the while dencoucing P2P and then abandoned the service no wonder it was a flop.</p> <p>http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117933217.html?categoryid=1009&cs=1</p> NBC made the same PR Statements about how great its deal with Peer Impact was all the while dencoucing P2P and then abandoned the service no wonder it was a flop.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117933217.html?categoryid=1009&cs=1

]]> By: Yaron Samid http://newteevee.com/2008/02/29/nbc-p2p-is-evil-except-when-we-use-it/#comment-232882 Yaron Samid Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:46:34 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3327#comment-232882 <p>For more info on P4P, you can also read up here: http://www.pandonetworks.com/p4p</p> For more info on P4P, you can also read up here:
http://www.pandonetworks.com/p4p

]]> By: Laird Popkin http://newteevee.com/2008/02/29/nbc-p2p-is-evil-except-when-we-use-it/#comment-232879 Laird Popkin Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:40:40 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3327#comment-232879 <p>Relevant to this discussion, there's a working group of P2P companies and ISP's that are figuring out how to work together, which we feel is more productive than the alternative. Early research shows that if ISP's give network information to the P2P networks, it can result in dramatic improvements in P2P performance and efficiency, which takes the cost/volume pressure off of ISP's to manage traffic.</p> <p>Participants in the Working Group include co-chairs Pando and Verizon, and (IMO) an impressive group of ISP's and P2P companies:</p> <p>Core Group •AT&T •Bezeq Intl •BitTorrent •CacheLogic •Cisco Systems •Comcast •Grid Networks •Joost •LimeWire •Manatt •Oversi •Pando Networks •PeerApp •Telefonica Group •VeriSign •Verizon •Vuze •Univ of Washington •Yale University</p> <p>Observers •Abacast •AHT Intl •Akamai •Alcatel Lucent •CableLabs •Cablevision •Cox Comm •Juniper Networks •Microsoft •MPAA •NBC Universal •Nokia •RawFlow •Solid State Networks •Thomson •Time Warner Cable •Turner Broadcasting</p> <p>There's a presentation at http://nanog.org/mtg-0802/presentations/PopkinPasko_Presentation.pdf that covers a fair amount of the technology.</p> <p>For more information, email me (laird@pando.com) or Doug Pasko (doug.pasko@verizon.com).</p> Relevant to this discussion, there’s a working group of P2P companies and ISP’s that are figuring out how to work together, which we feel is more productive than the alternative. Early research shows that if ISP’s give network information to the P2P networks, it can result in dramatic improvements in P2P performance and efficiency, which takes the cost/volume pressure off of ISP’s to manage traffic.

Participants in the Working Group include co-chairs Pando and Verizon, and (IMO) an impressive group of ISP’s and P2P companies:

Core Group
•AT&T
•Bezeq Intl
•BitTorrent
•CacheLogic
•Cisco Systems
•Comcast
•Grid Networks
•Joost
•LimeWire
•Manatt
•Oversi
•Pando Networks
•PeerApp
•Telefonica Group
•VeriSign
•Verizon
•Vuze
•Univ of Washington
•Yale University

Observers
•Abacast
•AHT Intl
•Akamai
•Alcatel Lucent
•CableLabs
•Cablevision
•Cox Comm
•Juniper Networks
•Microsoft
•MPAA
•NBC Universal
•Nokia
•RawFlow
•Solid State Networks
•Thomson
•Time Warner Cable
•Turner Broadcasting

There’s a presentation at
http://nanog.org/mtg-0802/presentations/PopkinPasko_Presentation.pdf that covers a fair amount of the technology.

For more information, email me (laird@pando.com) or Doug Pasko (doug.pasko@verizon.com).

]]> By: Tim Street http://newteevee.com/2008/02/29/nbc-p2p-is-evil-except-when-we-use-it/#comment-232869 Tim Street Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:33:31 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3327#comment-232869 <p>I remember when we used to get this thing called a glass from the cupboard. Then we would walk over to a sink, turn on this thing called a faucet and water would pour right into the glass and we would drink it.</p> <p>They also told us it came with a special chemical or something that would help protect our teeth.</p> <p>Ah, those were the days. The days when water was free.</p> <p>But I guess things are much better now. All I have to do is go to Trader Joe's buy a case of 24 plastic bottles full of water, carry them to my car, drive home, take them out of my car, put them in my house, then I grab a bottle when I need one on the drive to work and I when I'm done drinking I just throw it on the floor of the car on the passenger's side and then I clean them out when I give someone else a ride.</p> <p>I sure hope they can think of something like bottled water for air soon.</p> <p>Until them maybe they can just figure out a way for me to stop having to create and upload videos to the Internet. You know maybe I could pay someone else to think of the ideas I want to create, then they could tell me what I thought of and I could pay them to go write, produce, shoot and edit it for me and then I could pay them to upload it and watch it for me.</p> <p>Heck, they could even tell me if it was good or not and I could pay them extra for letting me know.</p> <p>Oh, I need to run I just saw something here in the Airport called an "Air Bar" and I need to see how much it costs. I hope they have a monthly contract I can sign.</p> I remember when we used to get this thing called a glass from the cupboard. Then we would walk over to a sink, turn on this thing called a faucet and water would pour right into the glass and we would drink it.

They also told us it came with a special chemical or something that would help protect our teeth.

Ah, those were the days. The days when water was free.

But I guess things are much better now. All I have to do is go to Trader Joe’s buy a case of 24 plastic bottles full of water, carry them to my car, drive home, take them out of my car, put them in my house, then I grab a bottle when I need one on the drive to work and I when I’m done drinking I just throw it on the floor of the car on the passenger’s side and then I clean them out when I give someone else a ride.

I sure hope they can think of something like bottled water for air soon.

Until them maybe they can just figure out a way for me to stop having to create and upload videos to the Internet. You know maybe I could pay someone else to think of the ideas I want to create, then they could tell me what I thought of and I could pay them to go write, produce, shoot and edit it for me and then I could pay them to upload it and watch it for me.

Heck, they could even tell me if it was good or not and I could pay them extra for letting me know.

Oh, I need to run I just saw something here in the Airport called an “Air Bar” and I need to see how much it costs. I hope they have a monthly contract I can sign.

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