Comments on: Adobe Extends Flash DRM to Downloads http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/ NewTeeVee Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:46:17 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: kurye http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-268220 kurye Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:12:46 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-268220 <p>emege saygi tesekkürler</p> emege saygi tesekkürler

]]> By: HAYATIN İÇİNDEN » Blog Archive » Flash kapandıkça Gnash büyür mü? http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-245709 HAYATIN İÇİNDEN » Blog Archive » Flash kapandıkça Gnash büyür mü? Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:19:43 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-245709 <p>[...] Buradaki (ingilizce) haberde görebileceğiniz gelişme (rss’leri topluca okumak için erteleyince böyle geç de olsa) özetle şudur: Flash videolar DRM kontrollü yayın yapılabilir hale getiriliyor… Özgür bir çeşitlemeye olan ihtiyaç bu durumda daha da acil hale geldi.  [...]</p> [...] Buradaki (ingilizce) haberde görebileceğiniz gelişme (rss’leri topluca okumak için erteleyince böyle geç de olsa) özetle şudur: Flash videolar DRM kontrollü yayın yapılabilir hale getiriliyor… Özgür bir çeşitlemeye olan ihtiyaç bu durumda daha da acil hale geldi.  [...]

]]> By: Michael Green http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-245204 Michael Green Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:34:30 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-245204 <p>As an aside, if you're trying to protect your blog by making it membership (and therefore paid) only then check out Easy-Download Protector at http://www.Easy-Download.com for a great solution.</p> As an aside, if you’re trying to protect your blog by making it membership (and therefore paid) only then check out Easy-Download Protector at http://www.Easy-Download.com for a great solution.

]]> By: » Koray Löker: Flash kapandıkça Gnash büyür mü? Bicak.org: Bir başka WordPress blogu. http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-238162 » Koray Löker: Flash kapandıkça Gnash büyür mü? Bicak.org: Bir başka WordPress blogu. Fri, 23 May 2008 18:40:10 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-238162 <p>[...] Buradaki (ingilizce) haberde görebileceğiniz gelişme (rss’leri topluca okumak için erteleyince böyle geç de olsa) özetle şudur: Flash videolar DRM kontrollü yayın yapılabilir hale getiriliyor… Özgür bir çeşitlemeye olan ihtiyaç bu durumda daha da acil hale geldi.  [...]</p> [...] Buradaki (ingilizce) haberde görebileceğiniz gelişme (rss’leri topluca okumak için erteleyince böyle geç de olsa) özetle şudur: Flash videolar DRM kontrollü yayın yapılabilir hale getiriliyor… Özgür bir çeşitlemeye olan ihtiyaç bu durumda daha da acil hale geldi.  [...]

]]> By: ooyan http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-234808 ooyan Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:39:36 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-234808 <p>If you look at project metavid they are developing an open source, standards compliant and completely DRM free embedded player that is a drop in replacement for flash. I am certain it will get picked up by people after they realize how horrific flash is as the de facto embedded player for the internets.</p> <p>http://metavid.ucsc.edu/wiki/index.php/Mv_Embed</p> If you look at project metavid they are developing an open source, standards compliant and completely DRM free embedded player that is a drop in replacement for flash. I am certain it will get picked up by people after they realize how horrific flash is as the de facto embedded player for the internets.

http://metavid.ucsc.edu/wiki/index.php/Mv_Embed

]]> By: Miro - Internet TV Blog » Blog Archive » Adobe Adds DRM to Flash Player http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-234641 Miro - Internet TV Blog » Blog Archive » Adobe Adds DRM to Flash Player Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:35:22 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-234641 <p>[...] is making room for old business models in new technology; they recently announced Digital Rights Management (DRM) integration with their server software. This will allow publishers [...]</p> [...] is making room for old business models in new technology; they recently announced Digital Rights Management (DRM) integration with their server software. This will allow publishers [...]

]]> By: James Gardiner http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-234407 James Gardiner Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:21:23 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-234407 <p>@Tama and @Manuel, The issue here is not that the incumbent players are clueless and trying to make DRM enforce the unenforceable.</p> <p>This may lead to some unfriendly experiences, but So what. Natural selection will bypass this. These actions are not evil (To a degree), they are just those of an industry coping with change. (Well some actions from the incumbents have been evil I have to admit but not all)</p> <p>It is likely in the future most content will not have DRM. It simply not worth it. But if content becomes FREE, this = DRM. Long story see my blog post on it at http://www.crafted.com.au/blog/2008/03/09/free-digital-media-drm/ DRM will work for some niche content and derive a better ROI. I an connected to a few projects that only with DRM would they be worth doing. These are very niche content producers so pirating is unlikely to cause to too much issue.</p> <p>At the end of the day. If you own content and want to sell it with DRM, it is your choose. And its the choice of the consumer to buy or not buy it.</p> <p>James</p> @Tama and @Manuel,
The issue here is not that the incumbent players are clueless and trying to make DRM enforce the unenforceable.

This may lead to some unfriendly experiences, but So what. Natural selection will bypass this. These actions are not evil (To a degree), they are just those of an industry coping with change. (Well some actions from the incumbents have been evil I have to admit but not all)

It is likely in the future most content will not have DRM. It simply not worth it. But if content becomes FREE, this = DRM. Long story see my blog post on it at
http://www.crafted.com.au/blog/2008/03/09/free-digital-media-drm/
DRM will work for some niche content and derive a better ROI. I an connected to a few projects that only with DRM would they be worth doing. These are very niche content producers so pirating is unlikely to cause to too much issue.

At the end of the day. If you own content and want to sell it with DRM, it is your choose. And its the choice of the consumer to buy or not buy it.

James

]]> By: Manuel Angelini http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-234348 Manuel Angelini Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:30:52 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-234348 <p>@Lawrence: You are absolutely right...it's confusing. Actually, from what I understand, to enable Progressive Download DRM for FLV files, you will have to either use the Adobe Media Player (not the web-based Flash Player) or built your own AIR application...</p> <p>@Tama: I would have to agree with you. ...and meanwhile, here's what's happening in other parts of the world: http://www.last100.com/2008/03/19/theyre-not-lying-cbc-to-release-tv-show-for-download-free-legal-and-via-bittorrent/</p> @Lawrence: You are absolutely right…it’s confusing. Actually, from what I understand, to enable Progressive Download DRM for FLV files, you will have to either use the Adobe Media Player (not the web-based Flash Player) or built your own AIR application…

@Tama: I would have to agree with you. …and meanwhile, here’s what’s happening in other parts of the world: http://www.last100.com/2008/03/19/theyre-not-lying-cbc-to-release-tv-show-for-download-free-legal-and-via-bittorrent/

]]> By: 2008 03-20 MediaBytes: FCC - NBCU - Verizon - Veoh - Rentrak | MediaBytes with Shelly Palmer http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-234340 2008 03-20 MediaBytes: FCC - NBCU - Verizon - Veoh - Rentrak | MediaBytes with Shelly Palmer Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:43:21 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-234340 <p>[...] ADOBE launched software that offers DRM protection for downloaded Flash files. [...]</p> [...] ADOBE launched software that offers DRM protection for downloaded Flash files. [...]

]]> By: Tama Leaver http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-234336 Tama Leaver Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:25:50 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-234336 <p>@James Gardiner: I’ve no doubt that Adobe is doing this to meet the demand of its clients. I’m not saying that Adobe are evil, but I am suggesting that DRM technologies tend to be vastly overused and prevent uses that would otherwise be possible (and legal) under fair dealing rules in Australia (or fair use in the US).</p> <p>It’s not a misunderstanding of how industry works, but rather - in many cases - an understanding of the way that media corporations tend to treat DRM as a holy grail which (while it does prevent piracy in a lot of cases) also is overused and overdetermined in that it makes fair uses and fair dealing almost impossible. (Many countries make cirumventing DRM unlawful, even if that is for fair dealing purpose.)</p> @James Gardiner: I’ve no doubt that Adobe is doing this to meet the demand of its clients. I’m not saying that Adobe are evil, but I am suggesting that DRM technologies tend to be vastly overused and prevent uses that would otherwise be possible (and legal) under fair dealing rules in Australia (or fair use in the US).

It’s not a misunderstanding of how industry works, but rather – in many cases – an understanding of the way that media corporations tend to treat DRM as a holy grail which (while it does prevent piracy in a lot of cases) also is overused and overdetermined in that it makes fair uses and fair dealing almost impossible. (Many countries make cirumventing DRM unlawful, even if that is for fair dealing purpose.)

]]> By: James Gardiner http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-234310 James Gardiner Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:58:38 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-234310 <p>I find it very strange that many Bloggers keep reporting that Adobe is introducing DRM into its ECO system and making Flash less usable or less friendly. (as above)</p> <p>This is an obvious sign of little understanding of the industry. One of the main reasons for DRM going into the Adobe products is because clients have been asking for it. Does it make Adobe/Flash evil for giving clients what they ask for? I would admit, they are obviously shaping this to there advantage but that is business. Flash is no LESS useful then it is without it. I look at it similar to some one who invents a powerful technology that can be used to help the world out, or could be used for one's own advantage. DRM is a tool like this. Creating it is not good nor evil. Its how it is used that we should judge.</p> <p>James</p> I find it very strange that many Bloggers keep reporting that Adobe is introducing DRM into its ECO system and making Flash less usable or less friendly. (as above)

This is an obvious sign of little understanding of the industry.
One of the main reasons for DRM going into the Adobe products is because clients have been asking for it. Does it make Adobe/Flash evil for giving clients what they ask for?
I would admit, they are obviously shaping this to there advantage but that is business. Flash is no LESS useful then it is without it.
I look at it similar to some one who invents a powerful technology that can be used to help the world out, or could be used for one’s own advantage. DRM is a tool like this. Creating it is not good nor evil. Its how it is used that we should judge.

James

]]> By: Tama Leaver dot Net » Blog Archive » links for 2008-03-20 http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-234307 Tama Leaver dot Net » Blog Archive » links for 2008-03-20 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:31:24 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-234307 <p>[...] Adobe Extends Flash DRM to Downloads [NewTeeVee] Adobe is hammering the DRM (Digital Rights Management) tools into the new versions of the Adobe Media Player, making Flash a whole lot less friendly and flexible. (tags: drm flash adobe) addthis_url = 'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tamaleaver.net%2F2008%2F03%2F20%2Flinks-for-2008-03-20%2F'; addthis_title = 'links+for+2008-03-20'; addthis_pub = 'tamaleaver'; [...]</p> [...] Adobe Extends Flash DRM to Downloads [NewTeeVee] Adobe is hammering the DRM (Digital Rights Management) tools into the new versions of the Adobe Media Player, making Flash a whole lot less friendly and flexible. (tags: drm flash adobe) addthis_url = ‘http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tamaleaver.net%2F2008%2F03%2F20%2Flinks-for-2008-03-20%2F’; addthis_title = ‘links+for+2008-03-20′; addthis_pub = ‘tamaleaver’; [...]

]]> By: James Gardiner http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-234294 James Gardiner Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:21:12 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-234294 <p>Yes there is/will be. Thats exactly what the Flash Media Rights Management Server is suppose to be about.. But I see you point, does it work outside of Flash-Media-Player. Well you would hope so..</p> <p>But then again, I was under the impression the FMS3 was suppose to do progressive download DRM. Its all a little confusing. I plan to set all this stuff up. then I WILL know. Even a Adobe guy I spoke to the other day was not sure.</p> <p>James</p> Yes there is/will be. Thats exactly what the Flash Media Rights Management Server is suppose to be about..
But I see you point, does it work outside of Flash-Media-Player. Well you would hope so..

But then again, I was under the impression the FMS3 was suppose to do progressive download DRM. Its all a little confusing. I plan to set all this stuff up. then I WILL know.
Even a Adobe guy I spoke to the other day was not sure.

James

]]> By: Lawrence http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-234280 Lawrence Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:14:27 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-234280 <p>The future looks good. I'm not a fan of the AMP though.</p> The future looks good. I’m not a fan of the AMP though.

]]> By: Manuel Angelini http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/adobe-extends-flash-drm-to-downloads/#comment-234272 Manuel Angelini Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:59:49 +0000 http://newteevee.com/?p=3496#comment-234272 <p>This is great news...but, and maybe I'm getting this wrong, there's still nothing for video delivered with Progressive Download through any Flash Player on the web.</p> This is great news…but, and maybe I’m getting this wrong, there’s still nothing for video delivered with Progressive Download through any Flash Player on the web.

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