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	<title>Comments on: Report: YouTube, Yahoo Relax Standards to Inflate Views</title>
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		<title>By: Josez</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-268849</link>
		<dc:creator>Josez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If it&#039;s counted one view per IP address, what about all the wasted views from people using the same IP?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s counted one view per IP address, what about all the wasted views from people using the same IP?</p>
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		<title>By: Measuring Up the Online Video Measurers</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-262395</link>
		<dc:creator>Measuring Up the Online Video Measurers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 04:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] on a daily, weekly and monthly basis &#8212; no view counts attached. Various sites also have different ideas of what qualifies as a video view; many say a view happens anytime a video starts, something [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on a daily, weekly and monthly basis &#8212; no view counts attached. Various sites also have different ideas of what qualifies as a video view; many say a view happens anytime a video starts, something [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TubeMogul Gets Embedded in Players Around the Web</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-261724</link>
		<dc:creator>TubeMogul Gets Embedded in Players Around the Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 16:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] internal data supplied by sites, whose metrics are all different (they don&#8217;t even agree on what counts as a video view!). Or you could get a bug embedded directly into each site&#8217;s video player to keep an eye on [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] internal data supplied by sites, whose metrics are all different (they don&#8217;t even agree on what counts as a video view!). Or you could get a bug embedded directly into each site&#8217;s video player to keep an eye on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roberisco</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-256887</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It seems like something is missing, no?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like something is missing, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Counting Online Video &#8220;Views&#8221; &#171; WiredPen</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-254229</link>
		<dc:creator>Counting Online Video &#8220;Views&#8221; &#171; WiredPen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] was 2007. In 2008, YouTube and Yahoo! &#8220;relaxed&#8221; their [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was 2007. In 2008, YouTube and Yahoo! &#8220;relaxed&#8221; their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Revision3 Views Up 140% Despite Self-Imposed Standards &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-253436</link>
		<dc:creator>Revision3 Views Up 140% Despite Self-Imposed Standards &#171; NewTeeVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] episode play or download, as opposed to a stream simply being started. Most other video sites are far more liberal. Revision3 CEO Jim Louderback has become a militant advocate of stricter viewership numbers (see [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] episode play or download, as opposed to a stream simply being started. Most other video sites are far more liberal. Revision3 CEO Jim Louderback has become a militant advocate of stricter viewership numbers (see [...]</p>
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		<title>By: comScore: 13M Online Inauguration Watchers &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-253430</link>
		<dc:creator>comScore: 13M Online Inauguration Watchers &#171; NewTeeVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] of stream measurement are so loose that if someone turns up for a millisecond many outlets count it as a full stream. comScore also only counted U.S. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of stream measurement are so loose that if someone turns up for a millisecond many outlets count it as a full stream. comScore also only counted U.S. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: YouTube Most Effective Vid Distributor &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-241160</link>
		<dc:creator>YouTube Most Effective Vid Distributor &#171; NewTeeVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] that this data does undervalue Metcafe&#8217;s playcount, as Metacafe is the only site that counts one view per IP address. TubeMogul did not provide an adjustment for this [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that this data does undervalue Metcafe&#8217;s playcount, as Metacafe is the only site that counts one view per IP address. TubeMogul did not provide an adjustment for this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: D&#38;C Private Investigators</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-239517</link>
		<dc:creator>D&#38;C Private Investigators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 02:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;People locators, general investigations, bug detectors!  D&amp;C private investigators can &amp;  will investigate anyone.  The Director  Josh  says,  &quot;At  D&amp;C we provide a  great range of specialist services, &amp;  fields such as  Locating Individuals and  Surveillance , are what we do best.&quot;  “We do everything from locating run-away teens, deadbeat parents, and even pets, to electronically sweeping  an office or  residence  for  eavesdropping  devices, or putting  one  of  our officers / investigator  teams to  work doing surveillance  on a cheating spouse. We’re  good at what we do. Our success rate in locating  people is an amazing 85%. Our private investigators are also well-seasoned  in  the art  of  surveillance. If  your phone  is  tapped, or  your place  is  bugged, there’s a  95% chance that we will find it!  We also welcome the challenge of unusual cases..”&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People locators, general investigations, bug detectors!  D&amp;C private investigators can &amp;  will investigate anyone.  The Director  Josh  says,  &#8220;At  D&amp;C we provide a  great range of specialist services, &amp;  fields such as  Locating Individuals and  Surveillance , are what we do best.&#8221;  “We do everything from locating run-away teens, deadbeat parents, and even pets, to electronically sweeping  an office or  residence  for  eavesdropping  devices, or putting  one  of  our officers / investigator  teams to  work doing surveillance  on a cheating spouse. We’re  good at what we do. Our success rate in locating  people is an amazing 85%. Our private investigators are also well-seasoned  in  the art  of  surveillance. If  your phone  is  tapped, or  your place  is  bugged, there’s a  95% chance that we will find it!  We also welcome the challenge of unusual cases..”</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Lindzon &#187; TubeMogul: What Counts As a "View?" Depends On Who You Ask</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-238459</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Lindzon &#187; TubeMogul: What Counts As a "View?" Depends On Who You Ask</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] study was picked up by the Los Angeles Times, Silicon Alley Insider, NewTeeVee and others.  &#124; subscribe     var disqus_url = &#039;http://howardlindzon.com/?p=3623 &#039;; var disqus_title [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] study was picked up by the Los Angeles Times, Silicon Alley Insider, NewTeeVee and others.  | subscribe     var disqus_url = &#8216;http://howardlindzon.com/?p=3623 &#8216;; var disqus_title [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Pripps</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-238379</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Pripps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is there a limit to YouTube views per computer?  We are trying to boost the views for a contest and can&#039;t seem to add more counts even by watching the video all the way through.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a limit to YouTube views per computer?  We are trying to boost the views for a contest and can&#8217;t seem to add more counts even by watching the video all the way through.</p>
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		<title>By: TubeMogul Blog &#187; &#8220;View&#8221; Equivocation Across Video Sites</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-238376</link>
		<dc:creator>TubeMogul Blog &#187; &#8220;View&#8221; Equivocation Across Video Sites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] study was picked up by the Los Angeles Times, Silicon Alley Insider, NewTeeVee and others. Here is a summary of the [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: On Stats at the blip.tv blog</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-238139</link>
		<dc:creator>On Stats at the blip.tv blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 15:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] I posted a comment in reply to Report: YouTube, Yahoo relax standards to inflate views: [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-238034</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 19:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks David, I was wrong, I ended up coming to the same conclusion after finding out the views took a few hours to log.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks David, I was wrong, I ended up coming to the same conclusion after finding out the views took a few hours to log.</p>
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		<title>By: David Burch</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-238028</link>
		<dc:creator>David Burch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry. My comment directly above should be addressed to Aaron, not Liz. The name of the commenter appears directly below the comment (duh!) , but I was looking above.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. My comment directly above should be addressed to Aaron, not Liz. The name of the commenter appears directly below the comment (duh!) , but I was looking above.</p>
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		<title>By: David Burch</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/#comment-238024</link>
		<dc:creator>David Burch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Liz:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your comment about YouTube testing surprised me, so I went back to the drawing board with yet another YouTube scenario, only to have YouTube count all 15 refreshes I executed. We are confident in the original results. In the case of YouTube, we tested four different scenarios. We later did some corroboration from a different IP address, computer, OS and browser.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the case of &quot;Refresh,&quot; we let the player start before clicking refresh again, so maybe that explains the discrepancy you report. Also, YouTube sometimes can take hours to log views, and other times count them almost immediately.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Your comment about YouTube testing surprised me, so I went back to the drawing board with yet another YouTube scenario, only to have YouTube count all 15 refreshes I executed. We are confident in the original results. In the case of YouTube, we tested four different scenarios. We later did some corroboration from a different IP address, computer, OS and browser.</p>
<p>In the case of &#8220;Refresh,&#8221; we let the player start before clicking refresh again, so maybe that explains the discrepancy you report. Also, YouTube sometimes can take hours to log views, and other times count them almost immediately.</p>
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