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	<title>Comments on: Viacom Denies It Wants YouTube Data</title>
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		<title>By: Viacom, YouTube, &#38; You: agreement to mask user data</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/07/10/viacom-denies-it-wants-youtube-data/#comment-241136</link>
		<dc:creator>Viacom, YouTube, &#38; You: agreement to mask user data</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] user data to Viacom. Then Google asked to have user identifying information stripped out. Viacom denied it ever asked for that data (it did) and then said it didn’t want user information after all. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] user data to Viacom. Then Google asked to have user identifying information stripped out. Viacom denied it ever asked for that data (it did) and then said it didn’t want user information after all. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Viacom wil niets van u weten. &#124; zoomz - Alles over internetvideo vanuit een zakelijk perspectief</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viacom wil niets van u weten. &#124; zoomz - Alles over internetvideo vanuit een zakelijk perspectief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] zegt, zoals uitgebreid te lezen valt op Groklaw. De tweede stelling is wat lastiger te beoordelen. Volgens een woordvoerder van Viacom bestond er altijd al een afspraak met YouTube dat er alleen geanonimiseerde gegevens zouden worden [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] zegt, zoals uitgebreid te lezen valt op Groklaw. De tweede stelling is wat lastiger te beoordelen. Volgens een woordvoerder van Viacom bestond er altijd al een afspraak met YouTube dat er alleen geanonimiseerde gegevens zouden worden [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/07/10/viacom-denies-it-wants-youtube-data/#comment-240861</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;lol, okay Viacom. Whatever you say.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This whole thing is just hilarious, I don&#039;t even know where to start.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, okay Viacom. Whatever you say.</p>
<p>This whole thing is just hilarious, I don&#8217;t even know where to start.</p>
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		<title>By: Viacom Denies It Wants YouTube Data - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/07/10/viacom-denies-it-wants-youtube-data/#comment-240855</link>
		<dc:creator>Viacom Denies It Wants YouTube Data - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] has swept the planet (or planet blog at least), there is a bunch of news involving YouTube. First - Viacom today issued a statement about recent court ruling that ordered YouTube to hand over its user data to the media giant. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has swept the planet (or planet blog at least), there is a bunch of news involving YouTube. First &#8211; Viacom today issued a statement about recent court ruling that ordered YouTube to hand over its user data to the media giant. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Zweig</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/07/10/viacom-denies-it-wants-youtube-data/#comment-240845</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Zweig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Chris.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When the judge decided this order, the information you&#039;ve mentioned - IP addresses and usernames - was never to be viewed by Viacom.  For a year, Google and Viacom have been working under a mutually agreed upon confidentiality order that has specific rules around different types of data.  The log in question was &quot;highly classified&quot; information, and restricted to outside counsel and outside experts to provide aggregate analytics for Viacom.  We were never going to use IP addresses or usernames to find anyone, Viacom employees were never going to see IP addresses and user names from this data, and from the time of the order, we were working to figure out how to anonymize the logs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, fundamentally, the court doesn&#039;t consider an IP address personally identifiable data.  Google has argued the exact same thing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The reason the request was constructed the way it was is because that&#039;s how YouTube maintains its data.  If there was a more direct way to get a reliable &quot;unique views&quot; figure, we would have asked for it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-Jeremy
Viacom&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris.</p>
<p>When the judge decided this order, the information you&#8217;ve mentioned &#8211; IP addresses and usernames &#8211; was never to be viewed by Viacom.  For a year, Google and Viacom have been working under a mutually agreed upon confidentiality order that has specific rules around different types of data.  The log in question was &#8220;highly classified&#8221; information, and restricted to outside counsel and outside experts to provide aggregate analytics for Viacom.  We were never going to use IP addresses or usernames to find anyone, Viacom employees were never going to see IP addresses and user names from this data, and from the time of the order, we were working to figure out how to anonymize the logs.</p>
<p>But, fundamentally, the court doesn&#8217;t consider an IP address personally identifiable data.  Google has argued the exact same thing.</p>
<p>The reason the request was constructed the way it was is because that&#8217;s how YouTube maintains its data.  If there was a more direct way to get a reliable &#8220;unique views&#8221; figure, we would have asked for it.</p>
<p>-Jeremy<br />
Viacom</p>
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