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	<title>Comments on: Avril Ascends, But YouTube Withholds Her Crown</title>
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		<title>By: Only 39.5% of 1 billion views of Avril's content* on YouTube is from official uploads - Avril Lavigne Bandaids: The Best Damn Avril Lavigne Fansite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Only 39.5% of 1 billion views of Avril's content* on YouTube is from official uploads - Avril Lavigne Bandaids: The Best Damn Avril Lavigne Fansite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] her music video for Girlfriend is the most-viewed YouTube videoof all time TubeMogul recently measured that just 39.5% of the some 1 billion views of her videos [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] her music video for Girlfriend is the most-viewed YouTube videoof all time TubeMogul recently measured that just 39.5% of the some 1 billion views of her videos [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Sector Assembles to Turn Video Pirates Into Gold</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/07/18/avril-ascends-but-youtube-withholds-her-crown/#comment-259916</link>
		<dc:creator>A Sector Assembles to Turn Video Pirates Into Gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] instance, though Avril Lavigne&#8217;s official version of her music video for Girlfriend is the most-viewed YouTube video of all time, TubeMogul recently measured that just 39.5 percent of the some 1 billion views of her [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] instance, though Avril Lavigne&#8217;s official version of her music video for Girlfriend is the most-viewed YouTube video of all time, TubeMogul recently measured that just 39.5 percent of the some 1 billion views of her [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Evolution of Dance 2 to Finally be Released in January &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/07/18/avril-ascends-but-youtube-withholds-her-crown/#comment-251637</link>
		<dc:creator>Evolution of Dance 2 to Finally be Released in January &#171; NewTeeVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Laipply&#8217;s Evolution of Dance has more than 108 million views on YouTube, second only to the complicatedly popular Avril Lavigne music video for her single Girlfriend. In January, Evolution of Dance 2 will be [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Laipply&#8217;s Evolution of Dance has more than 108 million views on YouTube, second only to the complicatedly popular Avril Lavigne music video for her single Girlfriend. In January, Evolution of Dance 2 will be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Avril Lavigne, Zombie Puppets on NTV Station Today &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/07/18/avril-ascends-but-youtube-withholds-her-crown/#comment-241693</link>
		<dc:creator>Avril Lavigne, Zombie Puppets on NTV Station Today &#171; NewTeeVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Avril Lavigne&#8217;s Girlfriend finally has finally hit the top of the YouTube charts &#8212; but does the video really deserve this honor? Steve Bryant&#8217;s got the straight talk at [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Avril Lavigne&#8217;s Girlfriend finally has finally hit the top of the YouTube charts &#8212; but does the video really deserve this honor? Steve Bryant&#8217;s got the straight talk at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Gannes</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/07/18/avril-ascends-but-youtube-withholds-her-crown/#comment-241524</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Gannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That makes a lot of sense, thanks Courtney.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Courtney Hart (A Napanee Area Avril Lavigne blogger) :-)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courtney Hart (A Napanee Area Avril Lavigne blogger) :-)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just wanted to update a part of your article related to how Avril is (apparently) getting that $2 million check from Youtube...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wired Magazine eventually got in touch with Terry McBride (avril&#039;s management) who was quoted as having claimed that figure, and it doesn&#039;t come from ads on her official Youtube video pages, but another method that most are probably unaware of...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;According to Terry, Youtube has an agreement to pay the owners of IP (&#039;Intellectual Property&#039; I think that means) a certain amount of money when fans use their videos in their own videos. For instance I guess if someone did a video slideshow of Avril Lavigne pictures with the song &quot;Girlfriend&quot; playing in the background, or a bunch of kids acting out the Girlfriend video (with the actual song in the BG), etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the Wiredarticle hersays:
&quot;My comments came during the Music Tank seminar and the concept of artists creating content that fans can then mashup up with their own creativity and share on Youtube.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To date Avril&#039;s songs have been used over 200 million times on Youtube with a substantial percentage being fan generated. Youtube has deals in place with the stakeholders of the IP (Publishers, Labels, Songwriting societies) that sees a share on a pro-rata basis in the advertising income created from these social activities. In time this will generate a few million dollars in income for all collectively involved...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Full article here: blog.wired.com/music/2008/07/avril-lavigne-a.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bye!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!</p>
<p>Just wanted to update a part of your article related to how Avril is (apparently) getting that $2 million check from Youtube&#8230;</p>
<p>Wired Magazine eventually got in touch with Terry McBride (avril&#8217;s management) who was quoted as having claimed that figure, and it doesn&#8217;t come from ads on her official Youtube video pages, but another method that most are probably unaware of&#8230;</p>
<p>According to Terry, Youtube has an agreement to pay the owners of IP (&#8216;Intellectual Property&#8217; I think that means) a certain amount of money when fans use their videos in their own videos. For instance I guess if someone did a video slideshow of Avril Lavigne pictures with the song &#8220;Girlfriend&#8221; playing in the background, or a bunch of kids acting out the Girlfriend video (with the actual song in the BG), etc.</p>
<p>In the Wiredarticle hersays:<br />
&#8220;My comments came during the Music Tank seminar and the concept of artists creating content that fans can then mashup up with their own creativity and share on Youtube.</p>
<p>To date Avril&#8217;s songs have been used over 200 million times on Youtube with a substantial percentage being fan generated. Youtube has deals in place with the stakeholders of the IP (Publishers, Labels, Songwriting societies) that sees a share on a pro-rata basis in the advertising income created from these social activities. In time this will generate a few million dollars in income for all collectively involved&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Full article here: blog.wired.com/music/2008/07/avril-lavigne-a.html</p>
<p>Bye!</p>
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		<title>By: ALF</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/07/18/avril-ascends-but-youtube-withholds-her-crown/#comment-241446</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We can decorate or degrade the story all we want, but throught this entire time, there has always been a constant - Truth and facts. Facts like Avril&#039;s video getting close enough to strike in the 1st place BEFORE any hype or gossip hit the media. Facts like the announcement alerting EOD fans that we intended to take over the top spot. Facts like ALL videos have a &#039;view&#039; counter that works exactly the same way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And does anyone question the logic? Like, why would Sharifa publically announce the existance of a cheat? How is it that out of the increasing millions of  videos on youtube, Avril&#039;s fans suddenly come up with a working cheat that nobody else had?  And how is it that out of all the millions of user accounts, people seem to imply that Avril&#039;s fans are the only one&#039;s who would cheat if they could ?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It seems logical to me that if Avril&#039;s fans would try to increase that traffic counter by any means imaginable, they would NOT be the first to try, nor would they be the only ones.  However, Avril&#039;s target audience includes younger ages who have more time to sit and defend her image against the tireless offenders who go add views to Girlfriend&#039;s counter to insult her. This only stirs up conversations that multiply the view counter hits with reloads to update the comments so they can continue the arguing back and forth. That&#039;s 1 user adding to the competitor&#039;s view count, mulitplied by the number of users who respond.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you dont see the pattern, I&#039;ll spell it out for you. Avril Lavigne is a primary target for lies, rumors, and insults, so most gossip about her will be presented in the worst light. So instead of a report like &#039;Bandaids attempts publicity stunt&#039; they would rather target Avril and discredit her popularity, and instead of Avril haters saying, &quot;Ha ha - you got caught trying to cheat youtube!&quot; they believe we actually DID cheat. Funny thing is, so many Avril haters are complaining about how many views she has, but are the main instigater of the increased traffic.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can decorate or degrade the story all we want, but throught this entire time, there has always been a constant &#8211; Truth and facts. Facts like Avril&#8217;s video getting close enough to strike in the 1st place BEFORE any hype or gossip hit the media. Facts like the announcement alerting EOD fans that we intended to take over the top spot. Facts like ALL videos have a &#8216;view&#8217; counter that works exactly the same way.</p>
<p>And does anyone question the logic? Like, why would Sharifa publically announce the existance of a cheat? How is it that out of the increasing millions of  videos on youtube, Avril&#8217;s fans suddenly come up with a working cheat that nobody else had?  And how is it that out of all the millions of user accounts, people seem to imply that Avril&#8217;s fans are the only one&#8217;s who would cheat if they could ?</p>
<p>It seems logical to me that if Avril&#8217;s fans would try to increase that traffic counter by any means imaginable, they would NOT be the first to try, nor would they be the only ones.  However, Avril&#8217;s target audience includes younger ages who have more time to sit and defend her image against the tireless offenders who go add views to Girlfriend&#8217;s counter to insult her. This only stirs up conversations that multiply the view counter hits with reloads to update the comments so they can continue the arguing back and forth. That&#8217;s 1 user adding to the competitor&#8217;s view count, mulitplied by the number of users who respond.</p>
<p>If you dont see the pattern, I&#8217;ll spell it out for you. Avril Lavigne is a primary target for lies, rumors, and insults, so most gossip about her will be presented in the worst light. So instead of a report like &#8216;Bandaids attempts publicity stunt&#8217; they would rather target Avril and discredit her popularity, and instead of Avril haters saying, &#8220;Ha ha &#8211; you got caught trying to cheat youtube!&#8221; they believe we actually DID cheat. Funny thing is, so many Avril haters are complaining about how many views she has, but are the main instigater of the increased traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: angel</title>
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		<dc:creator>angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;angel edwards
rocks&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>angel edwards<br />
rocks</p>
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		<title>By: angel</title>
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		<dc:creator>angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;visit MY SITE&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>visit MY SITE</p>
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		<title>By: Kardemee</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/07/18/avril-ascends-but-youtube-withholds-her-crown/#comment-241416</link>
		<dc:creator>Kardemee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have read that those supporting the Evolution of Dance video have resorted to trying to do the same thing with browser plugins, so shouldnâ€™t the Evolution of dance video be under scrutiny too? Perhaps a better solution would be to have YouTube find a better way to limit all false views for everyone.
Furthermore, the Evolution of Dance video has been out for a much longer period of time than Avril&#039;s Girlfriend video and her video has ascended at a much faster rate than the Evolution of Dance video in a much shorter period of time anyway,  and Avril&#039;s video has been about to overtake the top spot for months without the need of any supposed auto refresh methods needed anyway, it really was only a matter of time before Avrilâ€™s Girlfriend video took the top spot anyway, which is pretty amazing when you think about it because Avrilâ€™s video is not allowed to be embedded all over the internet as the Evolution of Dance video currently allowed to be.  It is an inevitable fact that the Evolution of Dance videoâ€™s top spot would be over taken by Avrilâ€™s Girlfriend video in short period of time anyway. So why are you all so upset over the mathematics of probability playing out here?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read that those supporting the Evolution of Dance video have resorted to trying to do the same thing with browser plugins, so shouldnâ€™t the Evolution of dance video be under scrutiny too? Perhaps a better solution would be to have YouTube find a better way to limit all false views for everyone.<br />
Furthermore, the Evolution of Dance video has been out for a much longer period of time than Avril&#8217;s Girlfriend video and her video has ascended at a much faster rate than the Evolution of Dance video in a much shorter period of time anyway,  and Avril&#8217;s video has been about to overtake the top spot for months without the need of any supposed auto refresh methods needed anyway, it really was only a matter of time before Avrilâ€™s Girlfriend video took the top spot anyway, which is pretty amazing when you think about it because Avrilâ€™s video is not allowed to be embedded all over the internet as the Evolution of Dance video currently allowed to be.  It is an inevitable fact that the Evolution of Dance videoâ€™s top spot would be over taken by Avrilâ€™s Girlfriend video in short period of time anyway. So why are you all so upset over the mathematics of probability playing out here?</p>
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		<title>By: stc</title>
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		<dc:creator>stc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;also, Judson can&#039;t monetize his evolution of dance cuz he doesn&#039;t have the rights to the music ;)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, Judson can&#8217;t monetize his evolution of dance cuz he doesn&#8217;t have the rights to the music ;)</p>
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		<title>By: stc</title>
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		<dc:creator>stc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;while i&#039;m sure no one will come out to officially dispute the $2M number, it&#039;s absolute BS.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;First off Youtube&#039;s charging a $15CPM for banner + overlay.  Even if the numbers were right, she&#039;s not taking home 99% of the ad revenue.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Next is that while her fans can spike the view count through an embedded player scheme, none of that is generating ad revenue.  There are no ads on embedded videos and no advertiser is going to pay for ad-free impressions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So if 100MM of her views came on an external site and the other 30MM actually have ads displayed, she&#039;s only getting paid for that 30MM.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while i&#8217;m sure no one will come out to officially dispute the $2M number, it&#8217;s absolute BS.</p>
<p>First off Youtube&#8217;s charging a $15CPM for banner + overlay.  Even if the numbers were right, she&#8217;s not taking home 99% of the ad revenue.</p>
<p>Next is that while her fans can spike the view count through an embedded player scheme, none of that is generating ad revenue.  There are no ads on embedded videos and no advertiser is going to pay for ad-free impressions.</p>
<p>So if 100MM of her views came on an external site and the other 30MM actually have ads displayed, she&#8217;s only getting paid for that 30MM.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Also, here&#039;s a chart plotting cumulative views (updates nightly):
http://www.tubemogul.com/embed.php?id=a19fd7dfc7bf8afc259135ce3ec0df0e&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, here&#8217;s a chart plotting cumulative views (updates nightly):<br />
<a href="http://www.tubemogul.com/embed.php?id=a19fd7dfc7bf8afc259135ce3ec0df0e" rel="nofollow">http://www.tubemogul.com/embed.php?id=a19fd7dfc7bf8afc259135ce3ec0df0e</a></p>
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		<title>By: Liz Gannes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz Gannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think it sounds too high too, Ryan. But the quote was so vague I didn&#039;t want to do a lot of bad math and make it even more wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it sounds too high too, Ryan. But the quote was so vague I didn&#8217;t want to do a lot of bad math and make it even more wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m surprised to hear that YouTube is paying her such a high CPM.  At a $20 CPM to advertisers, YouTube would have to be selling at least 75% of the ad inventory and pay her at least 75% of the revenue (of course, they can&#039;t do both at the same time).  Both numbers seem improbable.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised to hear that YouTube is paying her such a high CPM.  At a $20 CPM to advertisers, YouTube would have to be selling at least 75% of the ad inventory and pay her at least 75% of the revenue (of course, they can&#8217;t do both at the same time).  Both numbers seem improbable.</p>
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		<title>By: Avril Ascends, But YouTube Withholds Her Crown - Avril Lavigne Bandaids: The Best Damn Avril Lavigne Fansite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avril Ascends, But YouTube Withholds Her Crown - Avril Lavigne Bandaids: The Best Damn Avril Lavigne Fansite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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