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		<title>Revver Site Having Problems</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/11/01/revver-site-having-problems/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Liz Gannes</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve been getting tips for the last few days that Revver is down and/or having trouble serving off-site videos. However, each time we check, the site seems to be up for us. TechCrunch did a story on the outage reports today and got an explanation from owner LiveUniverse that the site is undergoing a &#8220;major [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=newteevee.com&blog=660143&post=11093&subd=newteevee&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>We&#8217;ve been getting tips for the last few days that <a href="http://revver.com/">Revver</a> is down and/or having trouble serving off-site videos. However, each time we check, the site seems to be up for us. TechCrunch did a <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/01/is-revver-on-the-fritz/ ">story</a> on the outage reports today and got an explanation from owner LiveUniverse that the site is undergoing a &#8220;major migration from a CDN/provider to a tier 1 &amp; top technology provider.&#8221;</p>

<p>The lack of dependability magnifies the fact that Revver is no longer providing the service it did in its heyday, when many major video stars &#8212; such as Ze Frank, Ask a Ninja, Lonelygirl15, and Invisible Engine &#8212; depended on the site as their main host and as a source of income. Revver does seem to have a <a href="http://blog.revver.com/">few people</a> left working on the site since it was <a href="http://newteevee.com/2008/02/14/liveuniverse-buys-revver-for-more-than-a-song/">acquired</a> by LiveUniverse for about $5 million in February &#8212; however it does seem to be fading away.</p>

<p>I received the image below via email from one of the Revver video publishers who sent us a complaint (like I said, for some reason I continue to be able to access the site):</p>

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		<title>NTV Rerun: What Constitutes an Online Hit?</title>
		<link>http://newteevee.com/2008/09/24/ntv-rerun-what-constitutes-an-online-hit/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Albrecht</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last year around this time, we asked the question: What Constitutes an Online Hit? We talked to a number of industry professionals, many of which cited the magic play number of 100,000. But some 12 months later, more people are watching &#8212; and making &#8212; online video than ever before, so we wanted to see [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=newteevee.com&blog=660143&post=8962&subd=newteevee&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Last year around this time, we asked the question: <a href="http://newteevee.com/2007/09/06/when-is-an-online-hit-a-hit/">What Constitutes an Online Hit?</a> We talked to a number of industry professionals, many of which cited the magic play number of 100,000. But some 12 months later, more people are watching &#8212; and making &#8212; online video than ever before, so we wanted to see if that number had changed.</p>

<p>For our original story, we spoke with <a href="http://www.funnyordie.com">Funny or Die</a>, <a href="http://www.revver.com">Revver</a>, <a href="http://www.jibjab.com">JibJab</a> and <a href="http://www.heavy.com">Heavy</a>. At the time, Funny or Die said that if a celebrity-driven video did 100,000 plays in the first week, that was good (great if it was a UGC vid). Revver said 100,000 views in a day (which would translate to 400,000 to 500,000 over the vid&#8217;s lifetime). Overachievers JibJab said 1.5 million plays in the first week was a hit for them. And while Heavy pegged a hit at 100,000 plays, it said it would settle for 50,000 if those were 50,000 rabid, evangelizing fans.</p>

<p>And now?</p>

<p>&#8220;One hundred thousand doesn&#8217;t hold anymore,&#8221; said Adam McKay, co-founder of Funny or Die. &#8220;I think it&#8217;s that million-hit line. More than a million and you have a hit.&#8221; McKay has high expectations for the celeb-driven videos for which the site is known. He recalled a recent <a href="http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6651cdfaaf">video featuring Fergie</a> that only did 500,000 plays, which, McKay said was &#8220;a little bit of a disappointment.&#8221;</p>

<p>When contacted for a follow-up, Revver just sent us a brief email saying &#8220;Revver&#8217;s take on this hasn&#8217;t changed &#8211; we still consider 100,000 views to be a definite hit.&#8221;</p>

<p>Not much has changed for JibJab either. &#8220;When I said 3 million in a week for JibJab, that&#8217;s what we still look for,&#8221; said Gregg Spiridellis, co-founder of JibJab, &#8220;So much of our view count happens in the first week after release.&#8221;</p>

<p>Heavy has lowered its expectations. For the first two weeks after a video is released, &#8220;We&#8217;re happy with 50,000,&#8221; said Eric Hadley, Heavy&#8217;s chief marketing officer, &#8220;But 100,000 gives you the mileage on it.&#8221; Hadley also stressed the importance of context. For a smaller site like Heavy, 100,000 plays is good, but for a larger site like Yahoo or MSN, he said, it would be a different story because of their size and scale.</p>

<p>We also got some new information this week from that reliable online video hit factory CollegeHumor. The brains behind <em>Internet Commenters</em> and <em>Minesweeper: The Movie</em> don&#8217;t consider a video a hit unless it&#8217;s played half a million times in less than two weeks.</p>

<p>So where do we net out? Smaller players like Heavy and Revver are sticking close to their prior definition, while sites with a track record of success are upping the playcount ante, demanding more plays for a video before it&#8217;s considered a hit. With the total number of online videos watched growing from 9.2 billion in September of 2007 to 11.4 billion in July of 2008, I&#8217;m inclined to believe that we need to raise the bar for what is considered a hit.</p>

<p>But what do you think? This post, like last year&#8217;s, isn&#8217;t intended to come up with a definitive answer, but is once again meant to kick-start a discussion. How many plays should a video generate in order for it to be a hit? Tell us your opinion in the comment section.</p>
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